Is the Aug 29 tarif enforced in Canada at the post office or when the item arrives in the USA?

[naturelover55]

 I'm trying to figure out when to stop offering sales into the United States. Most baseball card buyers are in the US and I was thinking of listing a good chunk for a 7 day auction in the next day or so but I'm not sure if they'll arrive in the US before August 29th or not. 

I feel like this was a very uncurteous decision by the United States to roll this out without reasonable warning as it's given small sellers and hobby sellers no chance to plan ahead. I would have listed a ton earlier if I knew this deadline was coming up so quick. I'm quite disappointed. 

[ypdc_dennis]

If via the post office, the August 29 deadline will be delayed until USPS is ready to handle things.

[easoss]

Sadly, it's over already. Small hobby sellers are finished in regards to US sales. Un courteous is probably the kindest way of putting it. He wants to create strength by making everybody else poorer. 

[ilikehockeyjerseys]

Nobody knows the answer about what the actual cutoff is (mailed through the 29th or goes through customs before the 29th).

The most comparable situation is when the de minimis was removed for Chinese packages. Some were delivered fine, some were returned to sender. This is package USPS claimed it was the responsibility of Canada Post to collect the duty, and Canada Post did not have a mechanism to do so. Which is the same situation they might be in on the 29th.

If you plan to cease shipping to the USA, the safe thing to do would be to set a cutoff a few days before hand. My packages go through Montreal to New York and seem to take 1-3 days to pass through customs, so I will stop shipping to the USA Monday August 25th. Not because I know anything shipping on the 26-28th might have issues, but I would rather play it safe and avoid the headache. 

I think you're going to find a lot of people who will go with the flow and continue shipping like they did with Chinese COIs. It is up to you what is right for you, but ultimately nobody can answer your question about what will happen because nobody knows. 

[38e_avenue]

I will take the risk and ship as usual.

HOWEVER: from now on, every package destined to the US contains: 

1. HS Code (as before)

2. Country of origin (as before)

3. Price ((as before)

4. Itam's description (as before)

WHAT'S NEW: 

5. HTS Code label, printed in red.

6. Invoice (outside).

Do I have a choice? NOPE! I printed 10 shipping labels today: 9 to the US, 1 to Canada. 

Without my US customers, my online business will simply cease to exist.  

I hope it will work (at least for sometime). Fingers crossed! 😊

[cottagewoman]

Don't be surprised if we get an announcement that either the flat 80/160/200 tariff method will be used, or CP stops commercial shipments to the US until they put in place a system to collect based on as valorem tariffs.

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@ypdc_dennis wrote:

If via the post office, the August 29 deadline will be delayed until USPS is ready to handle things.

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I thought (based on another post here) that they have a way to deal with it, and they're going to make people pay the tariffs when shipping the items (thus making good on the promise that other countries pay). Kind of doesn't matter what you make other countries do, it will still get passed to the end consumer (who is the buyer in the US).

C.

[ilikehockeyjerseys]

This is what I would expect, Canada Post to stop shipments to the US. Not based on anything that I have heard or read. I look at the position that Canada Post is in with the labour dispute, and the likelihood that the volume of US parcels will drop substantially, and I don't see why they would ship to the US without a system in place and risk a large sample of packages getting rejected.

[cottagewoman]

Pretty sure that all shipments arriving without duty paid will be rejected from any shipper, CP included - based on the information Royal Mail gave out to those involved in setting up their system to collect.

[38e_avenue]

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@cottagewoman wrote:
Pretty sure that all shipments arriving without duty paid will be rejected from any shipper, CP included - based on the information Royal Mail gave out to those involved in setting up their system to collect.

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You might be right! 😥

This is Royal Mail guide, which is very helpful. 

My question - where is such a guide produced by EBAY? Where is such a guide produced by Canada Post? 

Are they both sleeping, or what? Their future depends on the way this issue will be resolved ... 

[ilikehockeyjerseys]

Yes, I saw that Royal Mail information. 

I hesitate to take anything as conclusive because we keep hearing different things from different sources. 

If that turns out to be completely accurate and the US will reject any packages without delivery duties paid, then it makes no sense to expect Canada Post to accept US-bound shipments without a system in place to collect duties.

I guess we have to wait and see what Canada Post announces.

[mrdutch1001]

It is my understanding that the goods must be received /delivered to the USA buyer by August 29th otherwise tariffs apply....

[ilikehockeyjerseys]

How did you arrive at this understanding? You seem to be suggesting that if I send a package on the 25th, and it crosses through customs completely on the 27th, and is out for delivery on the 29th, it would be assessed tariffs. Or did I misunderstand?

That seems to contradict the idea that USPS will not be collecting customs fees. What we seem to know is that the international postal carriers (Canada Post, etc) are expected to collect the fees prior to the packaging being cleared to the USA.

Has that changed?

I could be 100 percent wrong, because we're all going off of so many different sources of information, but the theory that I have been operating with is that so long as packages clear customs and are in transit with USPS before the 29th, they should go through under the de minimis. With there also being a possibility that if a package is held up or takes longer than normal, and it passes through after the 29th, it might be returned to sender since USPS cannot collect the fees. (Like what happened with some Chinese origin packages when the de minimis was removed for them.)

[recped]

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@mrdutch1001 wrote:

It is my understanding that the goods must be received /delivered to the USA buyer by August 29th otherwise tariffs apply....

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It's not "delivered to the US Buyer", it's the date the package arrived in the US and is accepted by US Customs.

[38e_avenue]

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@ilikehockeyjerseys wrote:

If that turns out to be completely accurate and the US will reject any packages without delivery duties paid, then it makes no sense to expect Canada Post to accept US-bound shipments without a system in place to collect duties.

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I wonder, if shipping through ChitChats or Stallion with DPP would resolve the problem? 

All my items come from 15% tariffs countries, so adding $3 or $4 to the postage will be painful, but will not ruin my business. 

Concernig the CP: will Ebay allow us to print the labels, knowing they will be not accepted by the CP?