Any other full-time sellers thinking this isn't viable anymore?

Been doing this full-time for about 4 years. The tariffs and now this strike (and previous strike) are killing me. I use Stallion so I can still ship stuff but sales are slowing down again, and they've been way down all month.

 

Even once we can start shipping to the US again, it's not gonna be the same that it was. Might need to just do this part-time and find a job as well. Sucks.

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All I have to say it's I am glad I do this as a part-time, hobby kind of activity.

 

I just can't even begin to imagine being a full time seller. Not even at the "best" of times. Now with this Trump debacle is many, many times worse. 

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Luckily we still have a brick & mortar store, because we haven't had a single sale on ebay since the strike with the UPS shipping cost being so expensive. 

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It's brutal. I've had several people asking if I can still ship so I imagine I'm still missing out on a lot of sales.

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I'm in the process of changing my entire business to only sell products online.

I'm also a web developper. Good thing I still have contracts... I wouldnt be able to survive in the current situation and selling only on eBay.

As sellers, we need more options from the shipping department on this platform. More available carriers... More ways to push combined shipping...

Puro, Chit Chat, Stallion and others would be very useful as Calculated Shiping options. They all already have APIs.

Someone suggested eBay acting a bit like Chit Chat in another thread...

The solutions are all there to help the situation for all sellers. eIS is one good thing, but I think the lack of resources on eBay Canada is what is hurting us more.

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@haddonfieldmedia wrote:

Been doing this full-time for about 4 years. The tariffs and now this strike (and previous strike) are killing me. I use Stallion so I can still ship stuff but sales are slowing down again, and they've been way down all month.

 

Even once we can start shipping to the US again, it's not gonna be the same that it was. Might need to just do this part-time and find a job as well. Sucks.


I was going to quit my job and focus on selling. What stopped me were two things... one, my house isn't paid for yet (and I need to make sure I can cover the mortgage each month), and two I'm not very self-disciplined to keep on something without significant motivation. I'm motivated to show up to work every day and do the job for the day, but not so motivated to get out of bed on Saturday and make listings or take pictures. So I'm not sure eBay is a good fit for me.

 

Anyway glad I didn't do any of that and still have a job. Selling here is not viable as a full time gig with all the things going on.

 

C.

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Well I'm glad I'm not alone in this. I'm also trying to get ungated on Amazon as well and try to diversify a bit. Good luck to everyone out there.

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@chicweb wrote:

I'm in the process of changing my entire business to only sell products online.

I'm also a web developper. Good thing I still have contracts... I wouldnt be able to survive in the current situation and selling only on eBay.

As sellers, we need more options from the shipping department on this platform. More available carriers... More ways to push combined shipping...

Puro, Chit Chat, Stallion and others would be very useful as Calculated Shiping options. They all already have APIs.

Someone suggested eBay acting a bit like Chit Chat in another thread...

The solutions are all there to help the situation for all sellers. eIS is one good thing, but I think the lack of resources on eBay Canada is what is hurting us more.


I agree, but in the mean time you can come very close to accurate calculated shipping prices by using rate tables. They're a bit of a pain to set up, but they do work. I'd really like the ability to use rate tables along with combined shipping based on weight though. That option is mysteriously missing.

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I can't.

 

Last time I did this with Chit Chat and rate table, I lost 20$ on an order.

 

Urban vs Rural categorization on eBay doesn't work well with Chit Chat. Some rural municipalities cost a LOT more.

 

Calculated shipping is needed and Flat fees / Rate table is not flexible enough for me to use it.

 

Might be useful for international, but I won't use it for shipping to the USA at the moment. If we could mix Calculated and Flat fees for international, that would be very useful.

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Stopped being a full-time seller about 15 years ago...no longer dependent upon sales as an income is so much less worrisome and now I just list and sell "for something to do"...

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For sure the last year is going to go down in the books as a most difficult year to survive selling online because of all the negative rapid change that's hitting at once from the PO strikes, to the Tariff situation and to continual rising costs of selling. Hopefully things will turn a corner soon!

 

Whilst I've been selling for 47 years, I've only been full time for 17 now, and as I've mentioned in other threads, these difficult times are colliding with my move toward "semi retirement" if there really ever is for someone like me, so I don't have the level of nail biting that someone who's still trying to run 100% would be.

 

I've said this a few times over the years but its never good to have all eggs in one basket. When I was full time I was running my items on 3 separate sites (so getting kicked off one site didn't shut me down), as well as running traditional mail order. Having said this, for me, it has always been the case that eBay has seriously outperformed any other online site - this presents a challenge because why bother listing something on a different site that will sit for a long time when one can list more here and make more here (unless something goes wrong). 

 

As the latest mail strike approached and happened last year, I began to look for options to diversify my selling beyond online and to reduce the time it takes me to sell an item (semi-retirement concept) because the fun part for me is the "treasure hunt" of breaking stuff down - everything after that is the work to move it.

 

I'm now down to 2 online sites and I've been experimenting with non-online options for about a year now, of the type where I prep material and others run it (combo of online or in person), or I prep material and others sell it in person.

 

The progress for the non-online options is slowly growing and not nearly as profitable, which is frustrating, but just the same as was the case 47 years ago when I started selling mail-order. I still have the problem that if I were able to have eBay running at the moment it would have a sales $$$$ rate 10x or more than any of the other options (although ebay is substantially more work for me on a per item basis).

 

I am truly fortunate that I'm at the stage where I can survive the evolution phase we're in at the moment, I've said this before that I truly feel for folks who're earlier in their business cycle trying to survive off this/or online 100% at the moment. 

 

All I can suggest from my somewhat limited view at the moment is that I'm seeing behaviours changing as a result of all the current turmoil - things such as more Canadians are making a serious effort to buy at home, online or otherwise, some USA folks are making the effort to buy Canadian as a way to "apologize" for what's happening (this is in person sales, not online! - although I've observed in my online sales things that look a lot to me like the USA buyer was intentionally purchasing from me (AKA Canadian) for the same reason, although I never had any of them mention it directly.)

 

These changes will present options/opportunities. For me, being in the older slowing down phase of life, I've not got the energy anymore to do more than I am, but amongst this group of evolvers and survivors, I'm sure there are ways to get through this, I hope so especially for the 100% full timers!

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I can't.

 

Last time I did this with Chit Chat and rate table, I lost 20$ on an order.

 

Urban vs Rural categorization on eBay doesn't work well with Chit Chat. Some rural municipalities cost a LOT more.

 

Calculated shipping is needed and Flat fees / Rate table is not flexible enough for me to use it.

 

Might be useful for international, but I won't use it for shipping to the USA at the moment. If we could mix Calculated and Flat fees for international, that would be very useful.


I base my rates roughly off of Sendle, which has clearly defined and simplified prices. Every once in a blue moon I have to eat one, but I usually come out very slighly ahead. Between Canada Post via Shipping Chimp (when they're not on strike), Sendle, and UPS, ICS, Purolator, Canpar, etc via Click Ship I can usually find one of the services that come in very close to the estimate. If you have access to the cross border shippers, then you have even more options available.

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You know I was doing very well too in 2021, though 2022 was slightly under. But I chalked it up to I wasn't listing as much in 2022 either. But come 2023, it's become very hard to make sales. 

 

Which leads me to believe it's due to inflation and the cost of living.

 

At least that's my opinion...that I can't entirely blame it on what's going on south of the border. Even my cheap stuff that I mail lettermail just sits. Like under $5.

 

Over the summer, I was selling some sunscreen. I was selling it for $27 with Free Shipping. At Amazon/Walmart/Shoppers, it was $30. It was like pulling teeth to sell. Based on that, I concluded that people aren't buying $30 sunscreen anymore. And I don't consider sunscreen a "nice-to-have." I think it's a necessity.

 

If everyone's paying more just to eat and live, I think they're going to try to get by with cheaper products, if it's something they can't omit altogether. Otherwise, the majority will just do without. 

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I've been selling on ebay for 25 years now.  I am dependent on Canada Post as I live in rural Northern Ontario. Between the postal strike(s) and the tariffs, I'm just about ready to 'throw in the towel' on this whole ebay thing. That doesn't even take into account the crazy Canada Post shipping prices nowadays, especially from Ontario to any of the Western provinces. It's brutal!!!. I offer free shipping and 'Make an Offer' on all of my 5000+ items in my store and I find, especially in the last year, many people are making 'ridiculous' low-ball offers. Since the tariffs and Canada Post strike, I've put my store on 'Time Away' and blocked all sales to the US. I've had some bad experiences selling overseas so I'm not going to go there as an alternate option. It's a sad situation right now and I'm not convinced its gonna be any better soon. Thinking of reverting to a local FB Buy and Sell Marketplace format for the time being.

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Hello!

Here, in the used car parts sales business, our sales have almost fallen to nothing. On average, I used to sell 5 items per day, now I sell 2 per week, if that, and on top of that, I have to work harder to inform customers in the USA that they need to pay fees, etc. In short, things are not looking good in the short or long term.

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