De Minimis to end globally August 29 2025 as per executive order

As per fact sheet issued by the White House:

https://internationaltradetoday.com/source/974484
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Who is "I" in that document?
Does that person have the right or the power to change trade treaties?

 

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That 96% statement is pure hogwash. Central & South America are out, as is Africa, Eastern Europe, China & India. What does that leave you, 20% maybe. The USA is huge market of actual buyers that is being eliminated. It can't be replaced.

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eBay badly needs a delivery duty paid global shipping program for Canadian sellers, soon. It could be a competitive advantage that brings small business from other platforms on to eBay.

 

This has come a lot sooner than expected for most, but they are going to need to come up with a way to heavily market "delivery duties paid" with each shipment.

 

Even if you use a delivery duties paid service, an issue that you will encounter is successfully marketing to US buyers that they won't get hit with charges. Unless eBay implements delivery duties paid across the board and heavily pushes it so that each user knows duties won't be charged after checkout, buyers will assume that every purchase from a Canadian seller will result in charges on delivery.

 

This is going to be brutal for everybody. Especially if the Canada Post union votes no and there is a lockout on top of this. I have a fairly strong segment of my business that is purely aimed at Canadian buyers but relies on lettermail. The de minimis and a lockout at the same time takes away a huge majority of my options to produce sales.

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Basically brokers will be required to send in all ACE entries (CBS providers do this from the info we give them), entry and importation bond and international carrier bonds will be required for each individual shipment. All duties will need to be collected by the carriers and submitted to CBP, whether Canada Post or any other carrier (UPS, FedEx, CBS services) before entry.

This effectively kills micro and small businesses. This information comes from International Trade Today which is a paywall site, I'm on a free trial. Here is the full text of the article:

The ability to import low-value packages duty-free will end for goods from around the world on Aug. 29, the president declared in an executive order July 30.

Starting at 12:01 EDT that day, all low-value packages that previously qualified for de minimis will have to have an ACE entry by a party qualified to make such entry, and the importer will have to pay duties and fees.

If the packages are coming through the international mail, however, importers can either pay the duties owed or a flat fee of $80 per item for goods from countries that have reciprocal tariffs of less than 16%, $160 for goods from countries with rates between 16% and 25%, and $200 per item for goods from countries with reciprocal tariffs of above 25%. That alternative methodology will be available for six months.

In an emailed fact sheet, the White House said that the volume of de minimis shipments this year has "skyrocketed," even after Chinese goods were made ineligible for the privilege. It said that from Oct. 1, 2024, through June 30, 2025, there have been 309 million packages sent that way; however, if that number is accurate, that is a steep decline from the previous year, when 1.36 billion packages claimed de minimis.

A White House spokesperson didn't immediately respond to a request for clarification.

The fact sheet said "CBP is increasingly interdicting de minimis shipments where the certificate of origin is misrepresented in an attempt to circumvent duties."

The executive order noted that the original plan to eliminate commercial de minimis was in the orders related to fentanyl and migration, and said that it's also needed to make sure that reciprocal tariffs aren't evaded.

"Many shippers go to great lengths to evade law enforcement and hide illicit substances in imports that go through international commerce. These shippers conceal the true contents of shipments sent to the United States through deceptive shipping practices. Some of the techniques employed by these shippers to conceal the true contents of the shipments, the identity of the distributors, and the country of origin of the imports include the use of re-shippers in the United States, false invoices, fraudulent postage, and deceptive packaging," the order said. "The risks of evasion, deception, and illicit-drug importation are particularly high for low-value articles that have been eligible for duty-free de minimistreatment."

The order said if any of the actions taken under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act -- on fentanyl or reciprocal tariffs -- "are held to be invalid, the suspension of, or continued suspension of, duty-free de minimis treatment, as detailed in this order, shall not be affected."

The order says that under IEEPA, the president has the authority to "'nullify' or 'void' exercising any right ... or privilege with respect to ... any property," and that can be used to suspend de minimis treatment.

Transportation carriers that are delivering postal packages from abroad must collect and remit the duties, the order says, and they must apply the flat fee or the Harmonized Tariff Schedule-based tariffs across all covered shipments, but can change its approach once a month, "or on another schedule determined to be appropriate by CBP, upon providing at least 24 hours’ notice to CBP."

CBP will require an importation and entry bond for informal entries, and international carrier bonds, the order said.

The National Council of Textile Organizations thanked Trump for the action.

"For eight years, NCTO has led critical efforts to close the de minimis backdoor pipeline for cheap, subsidized, and often illegal, toxic and unethical imports -- half of which are estimated to be textiles and apparel," the group said
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Type 11 entry is still avaiable for orders under $2500. It is informal, I believe. The transportation company would just be required to collect. I think it might be possible to consolidate orders to US warehouse and unpack once over border. 

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@phc64 wrote:

 

Hopefully eBay.ca will soon make it possible for sellers to offer to US buyers only our made-in-USA items.


That option has always been available, sellers are the ones that decide where they are willing to sell, if you want to block US buyers for specific items it's simple emough.

 

 



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The transportation company will have to collect and provide bonds, as well as have a broker do all the ACE entries.
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I feel bad for Chit Chats and Stallion as most of their business was shipping to the US and internationally.   I don't know if they will survive for the next few years.  

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Oh well, 3.5 years left to go!
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Life goes on, and Buyers will adapt, as will resilient Sellers...

 

If you have something a "collector" wants, they will pay their "duties" and "fees" if it has any value...

 

For the rest, it's maybe time to find "new" markets or "new "hobbies. "

 

 

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I appreciate your optimism, but I don't think this is a fair outlook of the situation for anybody other than a collector or hobby type seller who is going to go from a few sales a month to a few less sales a month.

 

This is going to kill most Canadian online retail businesses that are anything except complete cash cows. 

 

Everybody knew this was coming, but it doesn't help for it to come out of nowhere. Very bad timing with the Canada Post union pushing for a no to the offer, and this happening after most of the votes were already in. If the offer is rejected, and Canada Post projects that they will lose most remaining US bound parcels, I can't see how they keep going.

 

Of course, there will be businesses less affected by this, but for most the timing and suddenness of this combined with the outcome of the Canada Post vote could be absolutely catastrophic. 

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@flipistics wrote:

@prescilaschina wrote:
With a stroke of a pen the orange dictator ruins small business international trade

There's still 80% of the 1st world population out there for us to trade with (and 96% of the total world population). US buyers will still pay for hard to find items. It will certainly hurt Canadian small businesses more than those from other countries, but it's also an opportunity to expand trade worldwide for those who currently don't.


5 years ago I would ship 5 orders per month that were not Canada or USA. Now lucky to send 1 or 2 every 3 months. The issue with shipping internationally is the shipping cost. Unless the item is small buyers run away when they see what they consider high shipping. Everything pretty much has to be sent using Intl. Tracked unless you are up to chancing small packet air and the risks included. As for tracked parcel that service is only available to 40 countries. Out of those 40 countries are a selection  the buyer can pay for tracked but the service magically gets hidden when you go to create a label. Then you are in a pickle because you have to ship using Snapship at a higher rate... taking a loss. 

 

(Past few years bulk of my international sales have been UK, Scandanavian countries and Australia. Rest of Europe is not worth the hassle if they have the packaging requirements.) 

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Right now a little word from eBay - just a 'hey we're working on this we've got your back' would go a VERY long way.
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Right now a little word from eBay - just a 'hey we're working on this we've got your back' would go a VERY long way.

You'd think they would say something, as this is certainly going to hurt their bottom line. 

 

But...maybe they are just taking the approach of waiting and seeing how things are shaping up. closer to 8/29. 

 

I think we all know by now that these situations are very volatile, and it can change on a dime, as it's customary with the Orange guy, down south. 

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

Who is "I" in that document?
Does that person have the right or the power to change trade treaties?


You know who the “I” is.

This is an executive order. The “I” is claiming there’s a national emergency and that applying tariffs will take care of that emergency. Since this is couched as a national emergency, the constitution has granted the “I” the power to modify treaties by executive order.

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marnotom!
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I say we just take a deep breath and try to tread water for the next few weeks, remembering we have a TACO at the helm.

This will probably be modified by trade negotiations or backpedaling over the course of the next few weeks, just like the tariffs themselves.

Of course it’s good to prepare in advance and change course before hitting the iceberg, but I think the events of the past seven months have shown us that it’s difficult to get your ducks in a row when a lunatic is running the asylum.

By the way, do we know where the tariffs are supposed to be going?
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That won't work.

 

The problem is by "upping" the prices for the American customers to include the tariffs, you Up the prices for the canadian market too. There is no way to fix a price for a specific country on eBay.

 

I refuse to charge more to my canadian customers because of americans. Canadian customers don't have to pay for this.

 

Unless eBay allows us to charge different prices to different countries, I will not pay their tariffs from my pocket.

 

The only way would be by using the Handling fees, but then, it's handling fees for all international (with the current Business policies configuration). We cannot set a percent, only a fixed amount. We cannot set handling fees specific to countries. We then penalize everyone in the world (except canadians) because of a single country... Which I also refuse to do.

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What are you referring to when you say upping the price for Canadian customers? I am open to the idea that I may have mis-spoke or communicated an idea poorly, but I re-read my post and I didn't get that anywhere. 

 

I'm suggesting eBay create a GSP that Canadian sellers can access to so that US (and international customers) can't confidently shop from Canadian sellers and know that the cost they pay at checkout (item, shipping, taxes, tariffs, fees, etc) is the total cost and there will not be any surprise charges at the door. This would be independent of domestic sales and at least directly would not change what you charge a Canadian buyer.

 

If you're referring to my comment about sellers using delivery duty paid servies independent of a GSP, and how I don't think that is a proper solution because of the difficulty marketing it - that wasn't me advocating or not advocating for sellers going that route. It also wasn't me discussing how practical it would be to implement different price points for different countries.

 

The point was that delivery duties paid would be difficult for any one individual seller to market on this platform, so even if they offer that service, they are unlikely to attract US buyers on eBay unless eBay creates a GSP that standardizes the process for all sellers and enables them to market to US (and international) buyers that they will not be charged anything except for the total at checkout. The total at checkout being subtotal, shipping, taxes, fees, tariffs, etc.

 

The point of bringing that up was to enforce that eBay needs a central GSP that they can market to US and international buyers as being a guarantee that if they buy from a Canadian seller who participates, they will not be charged extra at the door (because they will pay it at checkout).

 

The point wasn't to say that US (or international) buyers won't pay tariffs because Canadian sellers will eat the costs for them and pass those on to Canadian buyers. The point was with a GSP US buyers would know that whatever they see at checkout is the complete cost of the item and they don't have to worry about additional charges. 

 

The US market isn't coming back, it's done. But a GSP could allow sellers to recover the smaller portion of the market willing to pay a higher price for their same items, and it could also simplify international trade and open the seller to shipping to millions of other buyers. That would help offset some of the loss of the US market. 

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@ilikehockeyjerseys  eBay sent around a survey a few months ago and seemed to hint that they were thinking about an international shipping program for Canada (as well as various other things). Hopefully they've already started something on that front. With the Trump changes, I think it's now gone from a possible wish list item to a necessity.

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