How has your shipping cost to buyers changed since eBay International Shipping?

[troys_toys1]

For those of you who have been automatically signed up for and are currently using the new eBay International Shipping program, I (and I'm sure many others) would like to know how your shipping prices for US buyers has changed. Also, if you are selling world-wide and were not before EIS, are you seeing any non-US international sales?

Please reply with what types of items you sell, pre-EIS typical shipping label costs and post-EIS shipping label costs and any other information you think may be useful.

Thank you! 🙂

[byto253]

Not sure if many people actually have it up and running yet.  There was one post earlier that said they had checked EIS listings in Montreal and the rate for the US was about 2.5 times the chitchat rate.   

Considering that shipping is paid to the hub, then again to the US that would not be a surprise.  But as you asked, it will be interesting to see some direct feedback from sellers.  

[mrdutch1001]

Indeed!, can't wait to see the bit*hing from sellers who think eIS is going to be the next great thing here on eBay!

[sapphyres-designer-jewellery]

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@mrdutch1001 wrote:

Indeed!, can't wait to see the bit*hing from sellers who think eIS is going to be the next great thing here on eBay!

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I really can't understand why everyone thinks eIS is so great... when I buy stuff on eBay.com, like clothing, I pay around $25 USD for shipping (which includes applicable duty/taxes), I'm only OK with that because I buy $200 dresses for $25 (plus another $25 in shipping), so it seems like a good deal to get something nearly new at a 75% discount.

I realize what I sell doesn't qualify for the program, but I can't understand why anyone would pay eIS on the stuff I sell... It's around $9 (CAD) to ship to the US with Stallion for a coin or two, and $7.50 to ship to the UK, and I did a big coin set to Korea earlier today for $13.

I seriously doubt any of these buyers would be getting a good price from eIS.

C.

[marnotom!]

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@troys_toys1 wrote:

Please reply with what types of items you sell, pre-EIS typical shipping label costs and post-EIS shipping label costs and any other information you think may be useful.

Since eIS shipments ship to a forwarding hub in Canada, the label type and price will be for a domestic shipment, not a US-bound one.

I don't think sellers find out how much their shipping charges to the US (or anywhere else) are unless they view their listing pages the way a US buyer would.

[byto253]

What will the buyer end up paying as a total?  They will foot the bill for the shipping to the hub, and to the destination.  

[luv4orphans]

The same way we ended up paying more when buying an item from the US when they rolled  out the Global Shipping Program and then on to EIS. I complained about shipping charges going up as I kind of figured we were paying the 2 but some on here argued that it was because the post office had raised their prices.  By $10-$20? Nope. Plus tacked on that $5.00 administration fee. Its good in that our job is done once it reaches the hub but in terms of sales how is this supposed to help.

I quit buying from the US pretty well unless I got a really good deal and shipping costs is not through the roof or something you can't find anywhere else like boats or motor parts sometimes. Between that and the currency exchange its crazy its sometimes cheaper now to pay the canadian prices. 

[marnotom!]

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@byto253 wrote:

What will the buyer end up paying as a total?  They will foot the bill for the shipping to the hub, and to the destination.  

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It's going to vary according to the nature of the item.  If you're at all curious, start doing some searching.

Here's an example from a seller who's using both eIS and direct shipping to the US (not sure about other destinations).  They're using flat-rate shipping within Canada and that would make the cost of shipping to the hub C$6.99, so eIS's share of the shipping charge shown on the listing would be C$15.68.

The issue of the import fees and the (likely) inaccurate information associated with the other shipping method is another matter entirely.

[byto253]

Ok, so as expected EIS is much more expensive than doing it directly - $13 vs. $22.67.   To me, it really doesn't matter how you break it down, cost to hub + EIS forwarding cost,  the total cost with shipping to the buyer is my concern as that is what they pay, and that total triggers a buying decision.   

The import fee on the direct shipment method is a wildcard since the seller used a generic shipping method.  I would hope that in the description they provide more information.  If they are using CP + Zonos they can state that there are no extra import fees. 

[marnotom!]

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@byto253 wrote:

Ok, so as expected EIS is much more expensive than doing it directly - $13 vs. $22.67.   To me, it really doesn't matter how you break it down, cost to hub + EIS forwarding cost,  the total cost with shipping to the buyer is my concern as that is what they pay, and that total triggers a buying decision.   

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EIS is much more expensive than shipping it through what appears to be a consolidation service such as Chit Chats or Stallion, in this case, yes.  The info pages on EIS state its rates are structured to be competitive with the base non-commercial rates of major carriers, or something along those lines, though.  If my calculations are correct, this item (a Blu-Ray disc) would cost C$18.11 (including fuel surcharge) to send by Tracked Packet-USA.  If the seller offered free domestic shipping, eIS would actually come out on top here.

Based solely on this one example and what I've seen of the US eIS, I'd say that if shipping price is a consideration, eIS could be an option if the seller offers free domestic shipping and doesn't have access to a service such as Chit Chats or Stallion.

[femmefan1946]

My concern would be the difference between

"import fees will apply on delivery" 

and

"import fees ; est C$1.91"

If the second includes ALL import fees, including Trump's Tariff, is it then collected from the buyer when they pay for their purchase?

devon@ebay 

[rosscd57]

femmefan1946

"import fees ; est C$1.91"

If the second includes ALL import fees, including Trump's Tariff, is it then collected from the buyer when they pay for their purchase?"

Yep! It works just like the Global Shipping program from US. to Canada. The shipping includes all the fees and tariffis if any, then the item price is added and that is on only amount paid.

[rosscd57]

And one other thing: this is a bonanza for eBay since the total cost of shipping is going up. eBay will of course now take a bigger bite as they charge their fees on the total which includes of course the additional cost of the shipping'

[aviatorsparadise]

Here's the problem with EIS... I could ship a package Canada Post (before the US issues and strike) to Florida (about $11-13) for less than I can ship the same box across the city. ($16). Now that box must go to Ontario for even more (~$30) before getting the US shipping ($11-13). 

It just doesn't make financial sense. 

[recped]

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@rosscd57 wrote:

And one other thing: this is a bonanza for eBay since the total cost of shipping is going up. eBay will of course now take a bigger bite as they charge their fees on the total which includes of course the additional cost of the shipping'

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Not really, fees are based on the lowest price offered for domestic shipping. This applies to all shipments EIS or direct.

Domestic shipping locally $5

US shipping $15

Overseas shipping $25

For all of the above FVF's are calculated on $5.

This would also apply if you are shipping direct to the US and including tariffs and fees in your shipping charge.

[visual-sound]

So I received my second call today from EBay flogging their new EIS system that I opted out of. Let's face it, the buyer always wants the cheapest price including the shipping for an item. The US GSP introduced years ago resulted in many, including myself, from no longer buying from US sellers. Before the GSP you could buy an item and pay a reasonable shipping rate. Since the GSP you'll routinely find shipping rates of $25-30.00 for a single cd or dvd (what I sell). Who in their right mind would pay that? The new EIS for Canadians is just a reworked version of the US GSP. If you think that US buyers are going to pay rates like that then you are smoking a lot of hopeium. The sooner you realize that shipping to the US is dead, the sooner you can move on to the acceptance phase. Not what people want to hear but the truth hurts sometimes!

[dinomitesales]

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@visual-sound wrote:

So I received my second call today from EBay flogging their new EIS system that I opted out of. Let's face it, the buyer always wants the cheapest price including the shipping for an item. The US GSP introduced years ago resulted in many, including myself, from no longer buying from US sellers. Before the GSP you could buy an item and pay a reasonable shipping rate. Since the GSP you'll routinely find shipping rates of $25-30.00 for a single cd or dvd (what I sell). Who in their right mind would pay that? The new EIS for Canadians is just a reworked version of the US GSP. If you think that US buyers are going to pay rates like that then you are smoking a lot of hopeium. The sooner you realize that shipping to the US is dead, the sooner you can move on to the acceptance phase. Not what people want to hear but the truth hurts sometimes!

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I get what you're saying: you're concerned that people won't buy your items because the shipping cost is too high. But I don't understand why this is a valid reason to opt out of eIS. You can still specify your own shipping costs and it will show the option to the buyer along with the eIS option. Buyers then have the choice, and will still be able to select your cheaper option if they wish. 

I took a look at your listings - you seemingly only ship to Canada. By simply opting into eIS your listings are now visible to hundres of millions (if not billions) of potential customers and you don't have to do anything differently. Why are you choosing to exclude this potential pool of buyers which would come at no risk to you?

[mrdutch1001]

"The sooner you realize that shipping to the US is dead, the sooner you can move on to the acceptance phase." ...

Indeed!

which is why mid-August, I ceased shipping to the USA...

However, for me it is more than just the shipping cost...it is the very fact that I will not aide & abet that felon DT in his manipulation and coersion process of extorting Revenge Tariffs...

Easy, peasy process: Accept, adjust,adapt and carry on WITHOUT the USA!

[raanana]

In last few days I checked postcards  offered by US sellers.There are still some who offer reasonable s/h or even free,but most are through the ebay shipping for 17-30$ only without any options to choose anything else.Me personally wouldn't pay as much for shipping of a postcard unless it is unique or valuable. It might work good for some,but I doubt ,that it will for those who sale small unexpensive items .

[dinomitesales]

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@raanana wrote:

In last few days I checked postcards  offered by US sellers.There are still some who offer reasonable s/h or even free,but most are through the ebay shipping for 17-30$ only without any options to choose anything else.Me personally wouldn't pay as much for shipping of a postcard unless it is unique or valuable. It might work good for some,but I doubt ,that it will for those who sale small unexpensive items .

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American sellers are ignorant when it comes to shipping internationally. They don't care about providing a reasonable shipping cost for us here in Canada (or to anyone worldwide); they probably have their listings set to ship to USA only and may or may not even realize their listings are showing to international buyers via eIS.

We here in Canada are more savvy. If we can provide a cheaper or better alternative to eIS then we can include it on our listings. But I still don't understand why this is reason to opt out of the service.

The only reasonable explanation I've seen to opt out of eIS is "I don't want to do business with the United States for personal/political reasons". Ok, fine, but I hope you're specifically telling the reps that if you receive a phone call from eBay. And I still don't understand why that means you have to opt out of eIS entirely - it services many more countries than the USA (and from what I can understand you can exclude USA from the service). Unless you already have a) shipping options to every country serviced by eIS; and b) can provide a cheaper shipping option that eIS (impossible to know at this point), then I don't understand why anyone would want to opt out.