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First off is the Union statement

 

CUPW Issues 72-Hour Strike Notice: A Call for Fair Negotiation

Tuesday May 20 2025

2023-2027/251
No. 83 - AMENDED

On Monday, May 19, CUPW issued a 72-hour strike notice to Canada Post. This action was not taken lightly, but it was done for several reasons.

The collective agreements for the Urban Postal Operations and the Rural and Suburban Mail Carriers bargaining units, which were extended by the Government in December 2024, are set to expire Friday, May 23 at midnight.

CUPW negotiators met with Canada Post over several days at the end of April and early May, with the goal of resolving our bargaining dispute and achieving new collective agreements for both bargaining units.

Last week, Canada Post walked away from the bargaining table for the third time, telling the Union it would return with new comprehensive offers. A week has passed. With the expiry of our collective agreements drawing closer by the day, we are still waiting. The clock is ticking, and so far, Canada Post has yet to deliver.

The day after Canada Post walked away and paused bargaining, it fired another shot, by threatening to unilaterally change your working conditions and suspend employee benefits if new agreements aren’t reached. This aggressive move undermines good faith bargaining and the stability of our public postal service. It had to be met with strong resistance. Postal workers won’t be threatened or coerced into accepting offers that will gut our collective agreements and undermine good, stable jobs.

Our right to strike was taken away from us and put on “a time out” by former Minister of Labour Steven MacKinnon’s orders and the Canada Industrial Relations Board in December 2024. By issuing this notice, we are simply announcing our intention to continue our legal strike that was put on pause by the CIRB.


The Work Continues

Although we have served notices, there is still time for negotiations to take place. We remain committed to achieving negotiated collective agreements. Your National Executive Board and Negotiating Committees urge Canada Post to return to the bargaining table with real offers that protect the health and well-being of postal workers, support the communities we serve, and ensure a strong and sustainable public postal service for all.

 

In solidarity,

Jan Simpson
National President
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Nothing is going to change.  What magic will appear now after 18 months of no deal at the bargaining table?

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/jobs-minister-asks-canada-post-union-back-to-the-bargaining-...

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The chances of a lockout just went way up.

 

I don't understand why there is any resistance to letting the workers vote (other than from the union bosses of course who clearly want to hang onto their dictatorial powers).  Unions are supposed to be democracies, right?  As far as i'm concerned they should be allowed to vote on any new offer CP makes.

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I changed back to using a mix of Canada Post+UPS in order to offer "free shipping" on parcel sized listings. I am using Expedited Lite on lettermail listings.

 

My reintroduction of Canada Post today means that they will absolute announce a lockout tomorrow. 

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Looks like Canada Post will have arbitration with the Canadian Postmasters and assistance association.  Another union they are dealing with.

 

Arbitration hearings for Canada Post and CPAA are scheduled for June

May 8, 2025, 11:33 am

Canada Post and the Canadian Postmasters and Assistants Association (CPAA) are preparing for Final Offer Selection arbitration hearings that are scheduled for June 9, 10 and 13.

Last December, we announced that after reaching an impasse in negotiations on some key issues, all outstanding issues were being sent to a mutually agreed upon arbitrator.

The arbitrator has now been selected and the parties will head to Final Offer Selection, which is the last stage in this negotiations process. 

Under this dispute resolution method, both parties will present their final offers to the arbitrator. The arbitrator then decides on one proposal in its entirety and has no latitude to blend elements from both parties’ proposals.

Canada Post and CPAA will present their final offers during the June hearings and the arbitrator will make a decision within 30 days.

As a reminder, Final Offer Selection is part of the bargaining process with CPAA and this process does not include the possibility of a strike or lockout.

The terms and conditions of the existing collective agreement between CPAA and Canada Post will continue to apply throughout this period.

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And talks with another Postal Group

 

APOC Negotiations: Talks deferred

March 20, 2025, 12:24 pm

Canada Post and APOC agree to defer negotiations until 2026

A joint message from Canada Post and the Association of Postal Officials of Canada

Canada Post and the Association of Postal Officials of Canada (APOC) have agreed to defer negotiations on a new collective agreement until March 1, 2026. This will help provide stability and continued leadership within our operations.

The agreement to suspend talks includes a five-per-cent pay increase for APOC-represented employees and an update to the 2024 dental fee guide, both effective April 1, 2025 (pay increase reflected on April 24 pay statement). The two parties agreed that the existing collective agreement, which expires on March 31, 2025, will continue to apply.

We appreciate the hard work of both negotiating teams on this important file. Their focus and commitment to respectful and collaborative negotiations have been invaluable. 

Thank you as well to all APOC-represented employees for your leadership, dedication and professionalism during this critical time for our company. Your commitment helps ensure we can continue delivering for Canadians.

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Interesting in the arbitration with CPAA it states the following........

The arbitrator has now been selected and the parties will head to Final Offer Selection, which is the last stage in this negotiations process. 

Under this dispute resolution method, both parties will present their final offers to the arbitrator. The arbitrator then decides on one proposal in its entirety and has no latitude to blend elements from both parties’ proposals.

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"Your reintroduction of CP today might confirm a lockout"
comment gave me a chuckle. Im back live with CP and UPS today too. Oops... haha
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Filler... OPs post vanished

 

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Bought an item from a seller in Alberta, and the shipping address Alberta. 

Great informative/helpful seller 

 

 

I am enclosing information received from the seller regarding the effect of the post-disruption.

 

"The shipping carrier for this item is currently impacted by an unexpected Canada Post service disruption. Unfortunately, the fulfillment center had to cancel the shipment due to their inability to deliver to PO Boxes or areas serviced only by Canada Post at this time."

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This made me ticked in your link.

"For Canada Post, dynamic routing is all about ‘worker flexibility.’ It would give management the power to reassign work tasks to any carrier if there is a glitch in the software. It is about squeezing as much work out of carriers as possible in the full 8 hours every day of the year.

There will be no easy days. How will carriers be able to maintain this workload and pace over the long term?"

What? No easy days! Awwww....

Come on... It's a job. I don't have easy days in mine. That's life. What are they thinking ? That sounded so weird to me... They expect and WANT easy days... Wow. They want to be paid for doing nothing, basically ?

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i guess many of them have never had any other job other than working at CP, so they don't know what it's like.    I've never had a job with easy days.  People usually get laid off from jobs with easy days because that means there isn't enough work to justify keeping them on.

 

They get up to 7 weeks vacation time a year, plus personal days every month and a bunch of medical days each year, plus every federal holiday off (which most people don't).  Seems to me they already have lots of easy days.

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They are most likely using an alternate carrier like UPS, Fedex, Chit Chats, or Stallion. 

 

None of these carriers can ship to PO Boxes.

 

None of these carriers can ship to rural or remote areas at a reasonable price. For example, with UPS it might be $10 to ship an item to a major city or $110 to ship to a specific postal code.

 

Canada Post subsidizes the cost of rural and remote delivery. So most carriers use Canada Post to handle the final delivery to those areas and don't offer subsidized prices to those postal codes. 

 

What might have happened is that they are using a flat rate shipping price or free shipping (with the cost built into the listing). They either could not ship to your area without Canada Post, or it would have cost them way above what they reasonably budget for a flat rate. We're not talking about cancelling over a few dollars, it could have been a difference of $20-$100.

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@fergua3 wrote:

i guess many of them have never had any other job other than working at CP, so they don't know what it's like.    I've never had a job with easy days.  People usually get laid off from jobs with easy days because that means there isn't enough work to justify keeping them on.

 

They get up to 7 weeks vacation time a year, plus personal days every month and a bunch of medical days each year, plus every federal holiday off (which most people don't).  Seems to me they already have lots of easy days.


They only need a highschool diploma and a driver licence for some to become postal workers. Most postal workers are hired through networking. It's a cushy job with a lot of benefits. No jobs with the same qualification can match this. They know very well where they are, and what they are getting. 

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This made me ticked in your link.

"For Canada Post, dynamic routing is all about ‘worker flexibility.’ It would give management the power to reassign work tasks to any carrier if there is a glitch in the software. It is about squeezing as much work out of carriers as possible in the full 8 hours every day of the year.

There will be no easy days. How will carriers be able to maintain this workload and pace over the long term?"

What? No easy days! Awwww....

Come on... It's a job. I don't have easy days in mine. That's life. What are they thinking ? That sounded so weird to me... They expect and WANT easy days... Wow. They want to be paid for doing nothing, basically ?


This part is worse:

 

Under this proposal, letter carriers and RSMCs would no longer be responsible for just their own routes. This would mean that if you’ve completed your route or duties in less than scheduled hours, management could assign you any additional work to fill your unused hours without paying for the additional work.

 

Um, I think I have a theory about why Canada Post is bankrupt...

 

They also appear to be complaining that Canada Post will be offering part time workers extra hours to handle additional work rather than paying current workers overtime for weekend deliveries. Further down they then seem to state that they WANT part time workers to be able to work up to full time hours before overtime is offered to full time workers. 🤔

 

I really feel sorry for the poor federal workers who got assigned to help the two sides in arbitration.

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This made me ticked in your link.

"For Canada Post, dynamic routing is all about ‘worker flexibility.’ It would give management the power to reassign work tasks to any carrier if there is a glitch in the software. It is about squeezing as much work out of carriers as possible in the full 8 hours every day of the year.

There will be no easy days. How will carriers be able to maintain this workload and pace over the long term?"

What? No easy days! Awwww....

Come on... It's a job. I don't have easy days in mine. That's life. What are they thinking ? That sounded so weird to me... They expect and WANT easy days... Wow. They want to be paid for doing nothing, basically ?


I mean, yes, lol. That's one of their major sticking points.

Many carriers can finish their route in under 8 hours, but the collective agreement they currently have specifies that they still get paid for 8 hours. What this also means (and what does happen regularly), is they can finish their route early (let's say 6 hours), get paid for 8 hours of regular time, then spend two hours doing other work and then get paid overtime for those two hours. So they'll work 8 hours but get paid for 10 hours (2 of those hours being increased overtime pay).

 

Canada Post's attempts to introduce dynamic routing and load leveling would mean that the workers would be less likely to finish their assigned route in under 8 hours; if their regular route has a "light" mail volume one day, they would be assigned additional route points to fill up the 8 hours. Canada Post also wants to have the ability to have more part time and flex employees to work any potential overtime hours. This makes sense for Canada Post because it reduces the amount of overtime they need to pay, but the union is against it because a lot of them rely on the overtime and reducing it's availability is essentially a pay cut to them.

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Negotations Update: Minister Calls for Return to Table for Dual Track Negotiations

Thursday June 5 2025

2023-2027/268
No. 95

Wednesday, June 4, Patty Hajdu, Minister of Jobs and Families, called on both the Canadian Union of Postal Workers (CUPW) and Canada Post to return to the bargaining table. Today June 5, we have started that process, meetings are now underway. The Minister has requested both parties to focus on two key priorities: working with federal mediators to negotiate terms for an arbitration process, and continuing efforts to reach settlements for new collective agreements.

Once Canada Post announced its request for a forced vote, we mobilized a rapid response, pressuring the Government to stay out of our bargaining process. Our actions and voices matter. They are the source of our power.

As our negotiating committees return to the bargaining table today, we need to stay mobilized and keep the pressure up. The negotiators are counting on all of our support and solidarity as they continue to bargain for our demands.

Canada Post played its hand. Once again, the Employer is hoping the Government will step in and undermine our bargaining power, all in an attempt to gut our collective agreements and effectively rewrite them by themselves. 

We can’t let them get away with it. This fight is far from over.


In solidarity,

Jan Simpson
National President
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Negotations Update: CUPW Returns to the Bargaining Table

 

Thursday June 5 2025
2023-2027/269
No. 96

Today, June 5, the negotiating committees returned to the bargaining table. With the help of federal mediators, the Union is ready to bring these negotiations to a successful conclusion. Our goal has remained the same from day one: to reach new collective agreements that meet the needs of postal workers, while ensuring a strengthened public post office.

Through the mediators, we started to exchange proposals today for the Terms of Reference for an interest binding arbitration process.

The Terms of Reference would include:

  • the issues the parties could bring to arbitration;
  • the criteria that would help guide the arbitrator in making a decision; and
  • the timelines for when a final decision would have to be made.

We will provide more updates as talks continue.

The negotiating committees thank all members for their support and solidarity. 

Although we have returned to the table, the national overtime ban remains in effect.

 

In solidarity,

Jan Simpson
National President
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Negotiations Update: Work Continues on Terms of Reference for Arbitration

 

 

Friday June 6 2025
2023-2027/270
No. 97

Today, the negotiating committees continued to work on drafting the Terms of Reference for a binding interest arbitration process to settle new collective agreements for both postal bargaining units. 

When drafting Terms of Reference, our main goal is to ensure a fair and balanced arbitration process. We need to make sure that the criteria that will guide the arbitrator’s decision are neutral. If the Terms of Reference favour the Employer’s positions, it could bias the arbitrator in the Employer’s position – before we’ve even had a chance to present our case.

For example, one of the reasons we won our constitutional challenge against the Conservative Government’s 2011 back to work legislation was that one of the criteria to guide the arbitrator’s decision forced us to accept rollbacks on our pension. This was clearly to the benefit of the Employer.

We will not agree to any criteria that clearly undermines our chances of achieving fair settlements.

Our national overtime ban remains in effect, even as we continue working on the Terms of Reference.

 

 

In solidarity,

Jan Simpson
National President
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