Paying your buyers tariffs survey

[lotzofuniquegoodies]

Seeing where the consensus lands on paying the tariff on behalf of your buyer or not. Important to consider that even if you were willing to pay tariffs there would still be any processing fees for these transactions. Next to impossible to cover that out of any profit you "might" have left. 

Please put me down on this side of the poll:

Or a hard no!!!

If you list on dot com are you planning on moving your listings over to ca?

[triplecgirl]

Look at it for an American buyer's side. Why would they pay them unless you sell something unique that is unabailable elsewhere? It has ended me on eBay after 20 plus years as this situation makes my product unsalable at a profit. 

[mrdutch1001]

I stopped listing on .COM 3 weeks ago(I mostly listed on .CA but alternated my items between the 2 sites).I discontinued shipping to the USA about 2 weeks ago as no way in H*LL am I pre-paying tariffs for the USA...I am not supporting the USA economy and we Canadian sellers may want to consider engaging ourseves in more efforts to acquire more Canadian buyers and support our Canadian economy...

[chicweb]

I'm not paying any tariffs. The customers pays.

And, it will always be the case, except for businesses willing to take that money from their profits which a very very few would do. Retail margins are often around 20%, I think? People would sell at a lost, most of the time with the 35% tariffs. Only big corporations with specific contracts might be able/willing to do that.

The duties/tariffs must be paid by the customers, but integrated into the prices. Since, on eBay, we cannot set different item prices per country, we must find another way. I will not make everyone in the world pay the consequences for a single country tariff.  There's ways with Table Rate, but I want to use Calculated Shipping. We cannot mix Fixed prices with Calculated shipping for international, sadly. And, too risky to guess some countries out there.

At the moment, the only way I've found is to force customers to contact us for shipping options. This will allow us to go case by case, check for DDP and charge the total DDP included in an eBay invoice. For legality, I will write in the invoice note the amount specific for tariffs (since we cannot add lines on invoices on ebay).

Right now, there's no way to use DDP on eBay except using UPS/FedEx, and I don't trust that. Returns or refusals to pay by customers are too risky. That is why I want to make an invoice before hand so the customer don't have any surprises at the reception.

I'm waiting to see what will be implemented with Canada Post and eBay with the API.

[dache_us]

Canadian economy is dead and will only get worse for the next 2-3 years imo. Businesses have no other choice. I sell more to one state (CA), than the rest of Canada. 100% will pay the tariffs or I go bust, and I highly doubt many businesses don’t feel the same. Politics aside, Canadians don’t have much leverage and we need to be honest about that.

[prescilaschina]

I’m in the process of copying my listings from Etsy to eBay, (over 400) I have several categories but plan to clear out all but popular china patterns either at discount prices through both venues or through local auctions. I’m considering carrying on with sales only to Canada afterwards with items that will eventually sell. I have a considerable inventory but not purchasing anything now but popular china patterns.

First step in shutting down altogether.

[busybeas_books]

I'm only on .ca.  Turned off shipping to USA for all my listings last week, going to keep it off for anything that needs to go tracked or expedited. Stopped other-than-USA-international a few years ago.  I'm going to start up allowing USA sales on my advert pages, mailing them letter-mail (legality? I know)

[femmefan1946]

I am adding "US buyers may be subject to the Trump Tariff." to all my new listings .

And I will be using Snap Ship to buy Canada Post Tracked USA labels where needed since eBay has decided to cut off the least expensive and most reliable shipping service we have available.

EBay does not require sellers to refund when a shipment is Undeliverable.

https://www.ebay.ca/help/policies/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy/ebay-money-back-guarantee-policy?...
 

devon@ebay  If the USPS will not accept an otherwise properly addressed shipment (ie using the Tracked label with Country of Origin and HS code) will eBay consider it Undeliverable?

[silverpinups]

"US buyers may be subject to the Trump Tariff." 

I like that.

[prescilaschina]

It looks like continuing to sell to the US through Canada Post will require setting up an account with Zonos, a US company to prepay tariffs and a brokerage fee and a percentage of the tariff, none of which are refundable. It’s just too much money and too much hassle.

[tryubik-useonlyasdirected]

It appears Royal Mail UK is in the process of implementing a program that will calculate and allow a pre-pay portion to be disclosed for a mere 50p a shipment.

- No additional accounts with 3rd party US Venture Capital companies headquartered in Utah like Zonos as apparently being implemented with Canada Post. - 

 

Surely, Canada Post can find another way. This is also a potential data security issue - we're literally in the middle of a data cold war.

At least we can find out the amount to charge US buyers. 

eBay does need a portion specifically showing and allowing the input of duty/tarrif though.

[marnotom!]

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@silverpinups wrote:

"US buyers may be subject to the Trump Tariff." 

I like that.

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I like it too, but I’m not clear on how @femmefan1946 intends to handle the tariffs when items can't be sent DDU.

[easoss]

I agree. I'm not giving personal information to a US based collection agency. That has problem written all over it. I list on .ca but another one of my ID's is a .com account (I just haven't used it in over 10 years). Unless something dramatic happens I will be finished with eBay at the end of the year.

[fergua3]

your picture says it all for me lotz.  There is no chance i would pay the tariffs.  Easy for me to say now that i'm not selling anymore and if all this had happened a few years ago i would have been flipping out with panic, but, i know that even then i would not cave and have paid tariffs, even if it was affordable for me to do so.  

No chance in bleep (i might as well just type it in since it will get edited into a "bleep" anyway) i am going to do anything to help DJT win. F him.

[byto253]

Are you going from etsy to ebay.ca?  Does etsy not allow you to select what countries you will ship to?

My impression is that there are a lot of Canadian who will buy from etsy but will not go near eBay.

[ricarmic]

At this stage in the "game" I'm not going to say 100% I'll never pay any tariffs.

I can say I'll never pay anything like 25% or 35%, but if it's 5% or 10%, I don't know, I might waffle a bit on that.

My reason isn't patriotism, because we are doing what we can in our household to buy Canadian, but I do have a number of very good very long time repeat USA customers, some with me for over a decade. They may have or may not have helped put the current regime in power, nonetheless, I would hate very much to just cast them aside. (I will add that I am very sure I had US folks buying from me on purpose because I AM from Canada to make a statement of their own).

I am very much at a loss as to what the best course of action will be for me at this time.

At this moment, I am of the mind to only list stuff on .CA going forward when my store reopens sometime in mid to late September. I have seen some good approaches suggested here like plunking a blanket flat rate shipping charge on folks in the US. 

I'm for sure going to watch folks experiences here, I'm also of the mind I will probably extend my store vacation here longer than my current plan unless by some miracle a good plan comes to me by then based on what I am seeing.

As I mentioned in other threads, my biggest problem is I've got 2500ish items on each of .COM and .CA under the same userid. This reduces my options a lot, and makes the ones I choose more often "no going back" results, which I really hate to pursue unless I really have no other choice.

Time will tell.

[electronicsextraordinaire]

Just jacked my US "shipping" fees except for my made in USA item (tho it isn't marked that way, they only manufacture in USA). 

[rosscd57]

Pulled off all my US listing a couple of days ago. There is no way I am going to help the orange man by prepaying his tarifs - let the buyers and US boarder customs do it like they are supposed to. That is the only way this may be resolved.

If you go ahead and do it - you are not helping sellers or your self. I doubt you will get the amount right, the carriers are much expensive, there is a good chance it will be stoped at the boarder anyway and it is possible that you will not get your money back - or your sale item either.

The whole world is cutting of their Postal Services on this issue because they are not as stuped as the orange man. It would not surprise me in the least if the orange man pulled it on the 29th or shortly after or; kicked it down the road for a while.

[cottagewoman]

As many others stated not for now. But once the dust settles I'll see what makes sense. Eat 17% on vintage Japanese electronics. Make 33% back on exchange rate, difference (more or less) covers eBay fees. So break even. Before that 33% exchange bump was nice, but the new reality means it goes away for certain items, but hey, at least it breaks even to sale price, not sale price minus fees as when selling in CAD.

[lotzofuniquegoodies]

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@rosscd57 wrote:

Pulled off all my US listing a couple of days ago. There is no way I am going to help the orange man by prepaying his tarifs - let the buyers and US boarder customs do it like they are supposed to. That is the only way this may be resolved.

If you go ahead and do it - you are not helping sellers or your self. I doubt you will get the amount right, the carriers are much expensive, there is a good chance it will be stoped at the boarder anyway and it is possible that you will not get your money back - or your sale item either.

The whole world is cutting of their Postal Services on this issue because they are not as stuped as the orange man. It would not surprise me in the least if the orange man pulled it on the 29th or shortly after or; kicked it down the road for a while.

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I am wondering how fast or if eBay will be removing the disclaimer that is attached to ALL listings that ship to the USA? Will it happen tomorrow on the 25th? Will it get revised on all eBay websites when applicable?

International shipment of items may be subject to customs processing and additional charges.

It's been an eBay disclaimer for years in it's various forms.