Ebay is crushing sellers

Ebay is crushing its sellers from multiple angles.

 

First they want to try and push us into using the EIS which will objectively double or triple BOTH shipping prices and shipping times and if we refuse to sign onto this new shipping program they post a big blue banner on our listings scaring away customers with false information insisting USA buyers HAVE TO pay tariffs which isnt the case at all on CUSMA items and in general it is policy for many shippers to pre-pay tariffs on non-CUSMA stuff unless they use UPS or Fedex but if you want to be competitive you likely arent using UPS or fedex.

 

So from what I gather about that the only shipping methods that exist in the universe in ebays eyes are EIS, UPS and Fedex. --- Chitchats, Stallion Express, Swiftpost, and Canada Post with Zonos etc. all dont exist at all in the eyes of ebay. 

 

To add insult to injury starting in January apparently if you use promoted listings if someone views your promoted listing ad and you sell it to someone completely different who may have found it organically youre on the hook for the promoted listing ad regardless! I knew something was up when they forced the minimum ad% from 1% to 2%. At minimum they are essentially increasing their fees by 2% but then you always get red box warnings about listing with a 9-15% ad rate on top of the standard 11-15% base selling fee rate so really ebay wants practically 1/3 of a cut from your sale if they have it their way and at the very bare minimum they want at LEAST 15% but preferably in th 20-30% range. They also encourage you to offer free shipping (eat the cost) and then you have to figure in the cost to produce or source the item you are selling. Just how much of a bottom line are sellers supposed to settle for?

 

I have a theory that to make up for less sales by quantity perhaps ebay wants to make it up in raising fees from sellers primarily but also from buyers who choose to buy using EIS.

 

These new changes are making it harder and harder to make ebay any sort of full time or serious income and I fear it might slip into just a few big fish and then a bunch of smaller hobby sellers. Perhaps this will become a new trend in ecommerce.

 

I am not liking the direction ebay is going right now. It is bad enough for Canadian small businesses to have to deal with trumps constant rhetoric on canada and bad policies for small businesses globally and the constant Canada Post strikes. Right now what we need is a platform to do everything in their power to keep sellers above water and its feeling pretty rough right now on ebay.

 

I opted out of EIS.

I will stop using promoted listings entirely. 

 

If these programs were bringing in big views and sales to justify the big price tags I wouldn't be upset about it but my views/ impressions/ sales for Aug-Oct. 2025 vs same period 2024 are all roughly HALF and thats with me running more sale events than I did last year, listing way more prodcuts etc. So literally double the work for half of the return.

 

I am going to be testing Etsy out and seeing if I can start gaining some traction there so that if ebay continues sinking and turning into an expensive hobby seller platform I will at least have somewhere else to stand if it gets too bad here. 

 

Would love to hear your thoughts and what you guys are doing in light of all of these disastorous new trade and ebay policies that keep on being hurled at us Canadian e commerce sellers.

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I've been ending all my Promoted Listings as they appear About to Close.

I had about 400 and about 200 are now closed.

Interesting observations.

Although I have had a firm policy of using only a 2% minimum fee, about 20% or so had a 5% fee attached. 

I am in  a specialized category, but only about 10% of my PLs had any Views or Watchers.

I had previously noted that while PL did seem to bring more Views, I had a lower percentage of actual sales than I did of PLs. Rarely over $5 a month in fees. 

 

My best encouragements seem to be listing constantly and making targeted Best Offers to eligible listings.

 

EIS will not be available for stamps (or coins). 

I guess I'll be sending a lot of "birthday cards" this year. 

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

I've been ending all my Promoted Listings as they appear About to Close.

I had about 400 and about 200 are now closed.

Interesting observations.

Although I have had a firm policy of using only a 2% minimum fee, about 20% or so had a 5% fee attached. 

I am in  a specialized category, but only about 10% of my PLs had any Views or Watchers.

I had previously noted that while PL did seem to bring more Views, I had a lower percentage of actual sales than I did of PLs. Rarely over $5 a month in fees. 

 

My best encouragements seem to be listing constantly and making targeted Best Offers to eligible listings.

 

EIS will not be available for stamps (or coins). 

I guess I'll be sending a lot of "birthday cards" this year. 


@rdemaree 

I recently had a number or promotions end. In creating a few new ones as tests based on eBay's "suggestions" were 9 to 15%. (Wayyy out of my wheelhouse for comfort).  On 1 promo  even when testing those high of levels it gave no suggestions of how much of an improvement to traffic it would be. There seems to be major push towards using priority vs general. Thanks, but no thanks.

 

With the recent observation of higher shipping costs using CP compared to past discounts this will mean much more in FVF's going forward for anyone still able to chance promoting. 

 

@reallynicestamps 

Along with no stamps and coins don't forget the issue with combined orders/auctions as per the FAQ.

 

Combined shipping

If a buyer purchases multiple items from you, the order will automatically be combined if it's eligible for combined shipping. There are several reasons why shipping can't be combined when sending items through eBay International Shipping. For example, combined shipping won’t be applied if:

  • The order costs more than $1,200 CAD
  • The listing is in auction-style format
  • The item is purchased through Best Offer or an offer sent by the seller
  • The items exceed the program’s package limits

If the buyer is paying import charges at checkout for some items and paying import charges on delivery for other items in the same order, the shipping won’t be combined.

 

Note: On this page https://pages.ebay.ca/international-shipping/#faq-3 limit of 2500.00 CAD. Contradicts the 1200.00 CAD above. 

 

On the concept of birthdays cards as  a mailing technique, for your sake I hope USPS does not have birthday card police?? It's bad enough they are blowing boats out of the water with a explode first ask questions later mentality. 

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@rdemaree wrote:
 if we refuse to sign onto this new shipping program they post a big blue banner on our listings scaring away customers with false information insisting USA buyers HAVE TO pay tariffs which isnt the case at all on CUSMA items and in general it is policy for many shippers to pre-pay tariffs on non-CUSMA stuff unless they use UPS or Fedex but if you want to be competitive you likely arent using UPS or fedex.


This is not consistent. For some Canadian sellers ebay does not say, US buyers HAVE to pay tariffs, in contrary to that, it says US buyers DO NOT have to pay any tariffs extra because customs are already included in the purchase price on the check out (which is total nonsense because the checkout price includes Price of the item + US Sales tax + Shipping cost.


Ebay is total chaos these days.

 

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There is more to online selling than eBay!

There is more to online selling when one moves on from that belief that we cannot survive without the USA...There is more to online selling when one puts more confidence into the belief that yes we can do without that reliance on the USA...

Just got another nice sale on my other selling site (Canadian buyer as I no longer ship anything to the USA) and THAT is where MY focus is!

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I hear you but numbers and stats don’t lie. The USA is 350 million people and many of us can’t give up that market especially if we rely on e-commerce as a main source of income as I do. I’ll definitely have to cook up a side hustle given how bad this year has been so far but I do want to preserve my e-commerce income as much as possible .


Got a big sale to Poland recently and a big one to Mexico in September and some decent ones to Canada. USA sales are much less thsn before but still trickling in. I hope November and December and January are better. Those 3 months are usually great for me.
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On my other selling site November to March are my best months...but as to eBay well that's maybe one here, one there>often months between sales...

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birthday card police??

FWIW - my local Postal Outlet has the sales rep for greeting cards give them the envelopes when she picks up the deadstock. 

Then they sell them at 25/$2.00 and the money goes to a charity. 

 

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The USA is 350 million people and many of us can’t give up that market

Worse 440,000,000 -- but 12% are so poor they get SNAP benefits, even if they are working. 

 

I agree that the US is our biggest and best market. 

I am cross posting to a hobby site that is easier to deal with about shipping. Of course, I have the benefit of discount postage stamps for mailing. 

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

The USA is 350 million people and many of us can’t give up that market

Worse 440,000,000 -- but 12% are so poor they get SNAP benefits, even if they are working. 

 

I agree that the US is our biggest and best market. 

I am cross posting to a hobby site that is easier to deal with about shipping. Of course, I have the benefit of discount postage stamps for mailing. 


Until there are super discounts for shipping everywhere else in this fun world of ours it will challenging for A) sellers to get seen and B) to be an economical choice. VAT and Duty are just concerns we have limited control over.

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@reallynicestamps wrote:

Worse 440,000,000


Given the paltry growth rate in the US (steadily falling for the past 50 years) it will take at least another 50 years to get to 440,000,000 (with no allowance for migrant deportations).

 

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Tchaaa- you are right.

I was thinking Canada is 10% the size of the USA and we're 44 million. 

Wrong again. Canada is 41,200,000 .

 


That's a fascinating chart.

Look at the fertility rate from 1960 (height of Baby Boom) to 1965 (The Pill) to 1975 (Baby Bust) to 1990 (Millennials).

And the US is dropping as a percentage of world population.

Huh.

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@rdemaree 

 

In some ways my old fashioned way of looking at things like store fees, promotion fees etc as the olden days “advertising” costs benefits me.

 

I’ve suggested in other threads, a while ago now though, that in my experience “sales” do not generate more sales for me with regular or on sale items. Thinking of the cost of a 15% off sale as “advertising” – that ported me to thinking of using a promoted rate of 15% instead and leaving the price the same, which at the time was higher than the recommended promoted rate. This did generate “high” extra views and sales of both promoted and non-promoted items (probably because of the higher views rate). It is sad because that style benefits eBay and the seller but NOT the buyer because they pay the original price. Anyway it might bear trying an experiment? Of course after January the implications on other promoted items means those costs will be more likely to be paid too so more coordination would be necessary to minimize overall cost.

 

Keep in mind this is what works for me in my stamp world, the same may not work for others in the same or other categories, but it is always worthwhile trying experiments, eventually one of them works!!!

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I wouldn't be too hopeful this holiday season. The US economy is hurting big time and Republicans were decimated in elections largely because of this. I agree it's an impossible market to replace. It's still mind blowing to me how one man and the sycophants around him have destroyed economies in the manner they have. 

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(as of mid-August, I no longer ship anything to the USA), ...and I am already hopeful for this holiday season and no, for some of us it's NOT "an impossible market to replace" ...I have already had 2 nice Canadian sales this week from my other selling site...I for one, am feeling more positive and feel that I have proven to myself that yes indeed I can do without the USA>I need to just keep a-truckin' with these efforts on securing more potential Canadian buyers....eBay is not the only marketplace out there ...there is indeed more to online selling than eBay...Sellers just need to look beyond eBay and find that "other" selling world for themselves...

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"These new changes are making it harder and harder to make ebay any sort of full time or serious income and I fear it might slip into just a few big fish and then a bunch of smaller hobby sellers. "

 

From what I can see, eBay has already slipped into what you fear, and that happened a long time ago. It used to be great for hobbiests and collectors, but it's more like a big box store now. Probably good for folks who live off the grid and have no local stores to go to.

 

It just doesn't seem to be as much fun now ☹️

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Sad, but true. As much as I dislike the person who has created this mess, I hope the solution does not involve any violence a la Charlie.

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Tariffs, Tariffs, Tariffs ... nobody knows what's going on, and countries are spending millions trying to find out.

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Totally agree. My Etsy shop is rolling along with US orders and eBay is deadsville for me. I opted out of eIS because it's too expensive and I didn't want that shipping cost showing in the shipping highlights. Figured no one would ever check my listing to see my own delivery option with that there.

 

Since we can pretty much only send DDP (carriers that still offer DDU are too pricey now), eBay should confirm our shipping and remove that false banner about US buyers owing extra fees. 

 

Are they trying to push us into the eIS? I've had 2 lousy sales to the US in over a month - how is this making eBay any money? Just can't believe it.

 

I'm experimenting with shipping rates to offset higher prices. I increased my toys by about 20% for tariffs but reduced the domestic shipping so still close to the original price. It's the only way I can keep Canadians from paying more. We'll see how it goes. 

 

Even if tariffs are lowered/dropped soon, it's an ordeal to ship to the USA. My beloved UPS is out of the question now, Chit Chats wants addresses for defunct companies, and CP offers minimal discounts. It's all painful. demotivating, and exhausting. 

 

 

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Of my over 9400 listings, I only offer shipping to the US on the 98% that are exempt from the IEEPA tariffs. On every single one of them, US buyers are greeted with the blue banner falsely proclaiming, "Due to US customs policies, the buyer of this item will need to pay import fees to the shipping carrier prior to delivery."

 

In the last five days I have sold 39 items. Only 5 have been to US buyers.

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